English
253 May 31 2011 Creative Project Responses
Group 21
Group 21Õs presentation was the most meaningful to me
because I watch a lot of talent TV shows. Their rendition of ÒSoldierÕs Got
TalentÓ was entertaining as well as very moving. The first song performed, ÒIf
I Die YoungÓ was a mellow tune whose lyrics had an optimistic view of death.
The group incorporated slight humor with the judgesÕ comments and
criticism to bring out the deeper meaning behind the lyrics. The second
song performed was a rendition of Robert GraveÕs poem ÒI Will Remember YouÓ. I
felt that this song and lyrics are the most commonly known to our audience
because of Sarah MclachlanÕs modern day remake of the poem. I enjoyed the
powerful pictures of soldiers that were displayed during the presentation to
compliment the songÕs lyrics. My favorite quote from the second song is Òweep
not for the memoriesÓ. I never fully understood what Mclachlan was singing
about; Group 20Õs presentation, allowed me to fully understand and appreciate
the meaning of the song by reading the lyrics and follow along with the song.
Lastly, the group performed a song by Wilfred Owen. This song had a
distinct style to it what was vastly different than the first two songs.
It had more of a rock, heavy metal style, which made the poemÕs lyrics
much more powerful and in your face. This song addressed the fact that even tho
a war may end, wounded soldiers would experience misery for the rest of their
lives. My favorite quote from the poem is Òthere is not much left of me
after warÓ. At the end of the performance, one of the judges elaborated
on this quoteÕs meaning, it seemed to really hit home for our audience.
The presentation from May 31 I found most interesting was
group 21's "Soldiers Got Talent." The group compared the World
War I poems they were analyzing to familiar songs that the majority of the
class knew very well. The comparison was very well discussed, and they
provided good text evidence to support their song choices. As they did this
analysis, they entertained the class with a singing competition theme, which kept
the presentation lively and enjoyable. I thought it was very unique and
well-done.
I felt the best presentation out of todayÕs groups was
definitely group 21. All of the groups focused on Mary Oliver and the World War
One Poets and I was shocked to see that no groups attempted To the
Lighthouse by Virginia Wolfe. Anyways, group 20 shot
all of the other groups out of the water with their creative rendition of
AmericaÕs Got Talent/American Idol. It was interesting to see how the group
found different songs to portray the word of the differing poets. The songs
chosen for each poet was appropriate for each style of poet that was presented
during class. However, I think it would have been better to have each poet
perform his or her own poems in a singsong manner. This particular type of
reading was difficult to put into a presentation because it is uniquely about
World War One soldiers, so I think the group did a really great job putting it
into a creative presentation and interpreted the poems very well. I probably
wonÕt have been thought of doing this for these poems but group 20 executed the
presentation excellently.
The group that I found to be the most interesting was
certainly Group 21, who chose to do their report as a game show, similar to America's
Got Talent. I think this presentation method is very clever, because it uses
the idea of a popular show that many young people our age know a lot about. In
this way, we can relate to the presentation easily. Some works that this group
chose to report on were "The Soldier" and "When I'm
Killed." The format of the presentation was that of a game show, where the
judges hear each performer, in this case, poet, perform his or her song and
then give their feedback. Each poem was represented by a popular song that was
in very close comparison in it's content, such as "Will You Remember
Me?" by Sarah McLaughlin in place of "When I'm Killed." In their
feedback, the judges provided a great analytical breakdown of what was behind
the words of these great poets, such as the long-lasting effects of war on
human beings (PTSD and others.) Overall, I think this group really captured
what the authors were trying to portray in their poems, about the heartbreak of
warfare and the pain and suffering of loss. Having songs that we could hear in
class along with the lyrics of the song and poem side-by-side were a great way
for the audience to really engage itself in the presentation. I appreciated the
work put in by this group, as well as the creativity that went into making
their PowerPoint. Great job!
The group that I enjoyed the most was Group 21. They
started out with an idea based off of a reality contest show called Soldiers
Got Talent. There was an announcer and three judges much like actual shows we
now see an abundance of on television. The group showcased three artists,
through PowerPoint with the song, the lyrics, and pictures. The group then tied
the renditions of songs about war to how they related to the World War I poems.
The judges went on to further explain specific parts and lines closely related
either in exact words or similar ideas that were correlated. The songs to me
had a personal experience as I've heard them throughout my life, and the way
the group included both the lyrics to give an even larger impact and photos
really connected to me. I liked how they gave their own thoughts of how they
were connected because I had never really thought of it that way though the
songs and poems are so similar. All in all, I thought Group 21 did a great job
in illustrating correlations, their own opinions, and creating an extremely
touching presentation.
Group number 21 did a rendition of America's Got Talent and
changed it to "Soldiers Got Talent". They used the World War 1 poets
as the contestants. Three different poets sang a song that correlated and
complimented a poem of thiers. The first song was "If I Die Young" by
The Band Perry. This song, when put in the context of war, was very touching
and meaningful. One of the lines that really stood out was, "Lord make me
a rainbow, I'll shine down on my mother
She'll know I'm safe with you
when she stands under my colors". This reveals another way to think of
dying for our country, you are protecting your family, friends, and fellow
citizens. Another stanza that really stood out to me was, "A penny for my
thoughts, oh no, I'll sell them for a dollar They're worth so much more after
I'm a goner And maybe then you'll hear the words I been singin' Funny when
you're dead how people start listenin'. " We need to appreciate our soldiers
that are out their fighting and riskinig thier lives for our country, not only
the ones that have died for us. This group did a great job with all three of
the songs but this one in particular worked very well with the World War 1
poets and the message they were trying to send to the nation.
I love the song, If I Die Young, so I had to pick group 21 as my favorite. Group 21 did a
talent show named SolderÕs Got Talent featuring
Rupert Brooke, Robert Graves, and Wilfred Owen. We never found out who was
actually singing the poems from these artists. If it was one of the group
members, props to them, it was good. It was very interesting to hear and
contrast If I Die Young to Rupert BrookeÕs The
Soldier. I had never thought of that song in the
way The Soldier presented it. The Soldier was about a soldier going off to war and as a nobody and
dying a war hero. The point is that people think of you and all your
accomplishments after you after you are dead. The real song to which they
contrasted is about a girl faking her death so people would realize her
accomplishments. It is a funny trend how people are recognized to a greater
extent after their death. The poem by Robert Graves called, When I am Killed was interesting to compare to I will Remember You. I believe the messages from both songs are similar but
are from different settings and time periods. The poem When I am Killed is talking is saying that him or a soldier will live on in
and through those who love and know him or her. What is interesting is that in
both songs the artists say not to mourn them (or the dead if you will). Overall
good job
I really liked group twenty-oneÕs presentation on Rupert
Brooks. I thought the analysis of Rupert Brooks through the song ÒIf I Die
YoungÓ was intelligent and got right to the point about Rupert Brooks, The
Soldier, about remembering those who had die for our country. Another cool part
of their project was they way the presented it in the same format as the show
AmericaÕs got talent with three judges relating the ideas of the song to Rupert
Brooks poems. This definitely made the presentation more captivating. I thought
Group twenty twoÕs presentation on Mary Oliver was captivating as well. It was
interesting and very creative how the mimicked Mary OliverÕs writing style to
write a poem of their own emotions and feeling relating to a companionship they
had with a horse. I thought that the way the group compared some of Mary OliverÕs
poems and their messages to the song ÒHere Comes the SunÓ by the Beatles was an
interesting take. I felt the song truly grasped the meaning behind Òthe SunÓ
and ÒSummer DayÓ. It was similar to ÒThe SunÓ because the poem talked about how
everything was going to be okay in life and this was definitely the same type
of feeling I got from the Beatles song. I liked Group twenty threeÕs
presentation too on the War poets and the innocence and experience of the
soldiers. Their comparison between Rise AgainstÕs ÒHero of WarÓ and RupertÕs ÒThe
SoldierÓ was brilliant. The message between the two was pretty similar. They
talked of the innocent feeling of going into war, dying for oneÕs country, and
being immortalized as a war hero. Although as you delve deeper into the meaning
of the two you could see a questioning arising about this way of thinking
and this resembled an almost experienced emotion of the true meaning of war.
I thought group 21 performed the best and had the most
interesting project. I really liked how they took a soldiers life and
explained it in different modern songs. They were very clever in how they
tied in pictures with the lyrics of the song, and turned it into an
interview/american idol. They related modern songs with words and phrases
from the WW1 poets. They were somewhat comical in their performance and
were fun and easy to listen to. They took to heart the words from the
poems and enlightened them to us. They had voices that were easy to hear
and follow. It also sounds like they sung the songs and recorded them
with their own voices. This group put forth a lot of effort in appearance
and originality for their project
I liked the presentation of group 21 the best. The
presentation was based on DoverÕs, Anthology of World War I poets. It
involved a episode of a mock television show that they called SoldiersÕ Got
Talent. The show was like a mock American idol. The ÒsoldiersÓ sang songs
that were similar to their poems and the judges compared the poems and the
songs. The first soldier was Rupert Brooke with his poem ÒThe SoldierÓ and the
song ÒIf I die YoungÓ. The second soldier was Robert Graves with his poem
ÒWhen I am KilledÓ and the song ÒI Will Remember YouÓ. The third and last
soldier was Wilfred Owens with his poem ÒMental CaseÓ and the song ÒOneÓ. This
presentation exemplified the fact that soldiers all experienced war
differently. The judges gave the presentation an interesting twist because it
showed that people have different views and do disagree with each other. This
presentation was relatable because it made the soldierÕs poems into a more
present day format with the songs. This conversion expressed that these view
transcend time and place. People in World War I felt the same way about war
that people feel about the conflicts and wars today. Overall it was a
very entertaining and enlightening presentation.
The very first performance of the day was the performance
that stuck with me. Group 21's presentation was meaningful to me because the
songs they related the poetry to weren't obvious and overly popular songs. It
gave me the impression that they took a lot of time searching for relatable
songs with an abundance of similar lyrics to the poetry of Rupert Brooke,
Robert Graves, and Wilfred Owen. The performance itself was just that: a
performance. A vast majority of the presentations have been powerpoint presentations
or videos or music. Group 21 was a breath of fresh air because they were
playing roles while incorporating the music and using the powerpoint slides as
aids for the audience to make the connection between the song and the poem. The
pictures they hung on the blackboard to make it look like the poet was behind a
microphone were humorous, and the graphics of the powerpoint were impressive.
The only critique I would have that would make the performance stand out even
more would be if the "judges" didn't read their opinions off of
notecards. I feel that if they really believed what they had said they would
not have had to reference their notes no often. But overall, I really enjoyed
this presentation. Bravo!
I think that group 21 did an awesome job on their presentation.
Maybe I am a little bit biased in my decision because American Idol is my
favorite show, but their presentation was the most creative. I think that the
theme of being about a contemporary reality show made the World War One poems
more interesting. Reading the poem doesnÕt have the same effect as listening to
a song that shows emotion and urgency. I liked how the group showed different
styles of songs, such as Sarah McLaughlin and Metallica. That allowed the class
to look at the poems in a different light, and in styles of music that appeal
to more people. I think that each song could have been analyzed a little bit
more, instead of only analyzing the singing talents, but it was still really
good. Some of the songs gave me chills because they had so much emotion. All of
the groups did really well, but overall, this group was my favorite. Even
though other groups showed songs that relate to the poems, I honestly think
that the American Idol theme sets Group 21 at the top. It added a little bit of
humor to the serious tone of the poems.
I thought that all the presentations from todayÕs class
were insightful and entertaining. The most influential presentation to me was
Group 21Õs presentation. I liked how they created a game show, ÒSoldierÕs Got
TalentÓ, and how they related modern songs to the poems. I like how they used
three poems and related the poems to modern songs that most of the class had
heard before. I thought this group did a great job at getting into depth in the
poems and giving the class an insightful look at the similarities between
modern day media and these poems. Great Job!
Of the groups that presented on May 31, the one I
appreciated the most was group 21, and their mock game show on World War I
poets. I thought this presentation was the most creative out of the ones done
on this day, as well as having a certain amount of entertainment value. It was
well organized in how it gave each member of the group an opportunity to speak
at length on a specific author. The presentation allowed them to make a
connection to modern day songwriters while interpreting the meanings behind the
poets' original works. I thought that the use of a game show based loosely on
American Idol was a very creative method of conveying the ideas in the poets'
works and contrasting them with the products of modern artists.
I felt that Group 21 had the best presentation today. It
was the most creative making ÒSoldierÕs Got TalentÓ, a spin off of ÒAmericaÕs
Got TalentÓ, where World War 1 soldiers ÒsangÓ songs related to war. Then three
group members served as the judges. Not only did this presentation elaborate on
the war poems we have talked about, but was also entertaining, playing songs
that were recognizable and opening up my mind in a different way. I thought it was
really clear and well done.
I thought that Group Number 21 had the most meaniful
presentation. They created a mock american idol, but made the
"idols" British war poets. There were three total soldiers who
each performed a song. After they song was performed the three judges
gave their critiques. I thought that this was the most insightful aspect
of the presentation. The judges were the ones who compared the
performance of the song to one of the poet the soldier had written. I
really like the songs that were chosen, my favorite was If I Die Young. I
am really familiar with this song and the lyrics are quite touching. It
was neat to see how similar these new and popular songs are to old poems
written decades ago.
Group 21Õs presentation comparing World War I poets to
modern, contemporary music affected me the most because it demonstrated how
war, pain, and love have sustained throughout time. I thought the message
expressed in Rupert BrookeÕs poem ÒThe SoldierÓ and the song ÒIf I Die YoungÓ
were similar in that they both conveyed the fear and pain young soldiers
experience during war. They also show how powerful love is between a
mother and son. I enjoyed the Wilfred Owen poem ÒMental CaseÓ matched the
Metallica song ÒOneÓ because they both describe the scars and pain soldiers
bring back with them after war. This unfortunate reality of soldiers
returning home with physical and mental scars has been prevalent throughout
history and is still occurring today with U.S. soldiers returning from combat with
PTSD, brain injuries, physical injuries, etc. I also liked how the group
set up the presentation like American Idol for war poets because it caught my
attention and was very humorous.
The group presentation I enjoyed the most was group 21.
They did their presentation in a way that had never occurred to me before. They
called it ÒSoldiers Got Talent.Ó Whoa, it was incredible. The pictures that
they had in their were epic. Extremely dramatic war photos that tied the poems
and songs together. My personal favorite was the Mental Cases poem backed with
the pictures that described the misery of women soldiers. Even better, one of
my favorite songs, One by Metallica played as the background music. I felt this
was the perfect song to express the dramatic pictures that were presented.
Another great aspect of their presentation was the lyrics of the songs they
showed on their slides. For many people who do not know the songs being played
this is extremely beneficial. One thing I noticed was that all of the groups presented
on War today. However, I feel that this group stuck out among the rest. Their
take ÒSoldiers got Talent,Ó was an interesting twist that I feel was not
matched by any other group. Another reason why I enjoyed their presentation
over the others was because I did not feel like their presentation was a
presentation, if that makes sense at all. I felt it was more like a TV show
because of their style of presenting. Overall I think the group did a great job
and I wouldnÕt mind staying tuned for the next episode of ÒSoldiers Got Talent.Ó
Haha Ok maybe that wasnÕt a good joke. But great job group 21!
The group that I found most entertaining and inspiring was
group 21's presentation of SoldierÕs Got Talent. I thought the idea to make
their presentation a talent competition was excellent it made the presentation
definitely stand out from the others as well as made it more entertaining and
relatable. I like how they chose modern songs that are relevant to today's
time, they were spot on and the similarities pointed out between the songs and
the poems were very interesting and not something I would necessarily think of
on my own. The additional pictures and lyrics on the slideshow also added a
little extra and helped to make the overall presentation a little more visually
stimulating. I liked the whole set up of the presentation the way they made it
more of a television show then a school project. I also thought it was creative
how they had the comparisons of the poems compared to the modern songs during
the part where the judges were responding to the performance. The other
commentary from the additional judges also added a little comedy relief and
made the whole presentation not as heavy and serious. Group 21Õs SoldierÕs Got
Talent was a very creative idea and made for a great presentation that was
visually and mentally stimulating.
I thought group 21 was the best of the groups that
presented. I really liked their layout and their insights into the authors they
choose to analyze. They had a great variety of photographs that went along with
the poems and songs they choose. I liked the overall theme of Death, as it is
always an ever-changing theme with a magnitude of attitudes about it. You
connected what the authors had to say with modern day songs that regular people
connect to. You picked songs that both the poems and authors would have as well
has songs that your audience knows and can connect to. Group 23: The handout
was a really nice touch and unique. It really helped out with following what
you were saying and what the songs where saying. It helped all the different
kinds of learners connect to your presentation. The band and songs were seemed
kinda random and only for a limited group of people. Group 24 I found
kinda lacking. Following all the other presentations this was just run of the
mill analysis of a poem. Nothing really jumped out as great or exciting but
just a review of what any plain website says.
I found group 21Õs presentation to be the most inspiring,
although the other presentations were similar and excellent as well. They
compared current songs with poems by the war poets. They compared Rupert
BrookeÕs poem ÒThe SoldierÓ to the song by The Band Perry ÒIf I Die Young.Ó
They then compared Sarah MclachlanÕs song ÒI Will Remember YouÓ to Rupert BrookeÕs
poem ÒWhen IÕm Killed.Ó They concluded the presentation by comparing Wilfred
OwenÕs poem Ò Mental CasesÓ to MetallicaÕs song, ÒThe One.Ó This group was the
first group to present, and compared to the other groups, they selected the
more appropriate songs that related to the poems that they selected. They were
extremely moving and thought-provoking just as the selected poems were. It is
amazing that a war poem written decades ago has such a similar message to songs
still written today.
I enjoyed group 21Õs presentation in class on Tuesday. The
idea to use a popular television show to analyze World War I poets and their
work was very creative. First of all, I appreciated the background of the
PowerPoint was in camo print, and gave it more of a military feel. Second,
using pictures from both previous wars and the current war in the Middle East
really put things into perspective. This presentation was a nice comparison
between war 100 years ago and war now. The first song discussed the romantic
side of war and made death seem appealing to a young soldier. This is a topic
that is still relevant today and I liked the analysis of both the poem and song
given in the presentation. The last song and theme of hurt soldiers really came
into light when the speaker compared it to PTSD and other diseases caused by
war. The songs were enjoyable to listen to and overall I fell like this
presentation was the most fluid and easiest to follow of all the groups to
present on Tuesday. Great work group 21, very original and comical with the
adlibbing by the judges when it wasnÕt their turn to analyze the song/poem.
Group 21's presentation was my favorite of the last group
of presentations. I liked the "Soldier's Got Talent" idea and that
they used modern songs to connect with the World War II poets. The fact that
they only played part of the song was appreciated, as it meant we got to hear
more of their analysis, which was thoughtful and measured. I liked that we got
to hear from each group member, or judge, and that there were different poets
represented. The slideshow of pictures during the song was nice, as it added
another layer of meaning to the songs. The visual cue was helpful in
maintaining a connection between the modern song and the early 20th century
poetry. Good job group 21!
I really enjoyed Group 21's presentation of the Soldier
Hero. I really enjoyed the way that the group related modern war themed songs
to the Brittsish war poets that we studied in class. Songs have an
amazing power to persuade and tell a message, and I was interested to see that
many of the themes discussed then are being discussed now. The
presentation was very nice and I liked the depth of analysis for each of the
poems/songs discussed.
I enjoyed group 21's presentation because it was something
we had not seen before. The presentation was funny but it also took some good
insight on characters personalities to be able to pick modern songs that would
suit them. I think they did a good job of this. The commentary after the songs
reiterated why the song was picked and it helped me pick up things I missed
about the song and how it related. This group stood out the most for me because
they chose a unique project, but all of the presentations that went today were
entertaining and thought provoking.
On Tuesday, I enjoyed the project presented by group 21 the
most. It was a very creative way of linking the World War 1 poems to current
songs. My favorite song/poem was "If I Die Young" and it was linked
to the poem "The Soldier" by Rupert Brooke. I really liked how with
each song, one of the judges analyzed not only the "singing" of each
performer on "Soldiers Got Talent" but also how it relates to their
poem (which is presented excellent analytical insight). It was a very
well-thought out presentation and not only kept the audience entertained with
humor and relevant songs, but showed the audience that they had a strong
understanding of the content of these poems.
I thought that all the presentations from todayÕs class
were creative and entertaining. The presentation that I enjoyed most was
probably Group 21Õs presentation. I really liked how they made up a game show,
and then took modern songs and related them to the different poems from three
of the poets. I think the songs really captured the essence, feeling and the
message of the poems all really well, especially the second song, ÒI Will
Remember You.Ó Overall I think they did a really good job presenting in class
as well, and definitely kept me entertained!
group 21 did there project on the "World War One
British Poets". There Project was well done, creative and very organized.
This project was done in the form of a Game show, much like the popular tv show
American Idol. At first I did not care for the approach to the project. But
after hearing the music and What each person had to say about selected poems
from the text, the project gained my interest. What they said about the poems
really opened my opinion. It gave me another perspective. I believe the group
worked well together and showed great thought and hard work that was put into
this presentation.
The presentation that was the most meaningful to me was the
presentation by group 21. They had a very creative idea to find songs that
related to the World War One poets and compile them into a ÒSolder IdolÓ.
I actually really love the song they played by The Band Perry and it was
interesting to see how it related to Rupert. I never made the connection when
we were reading the poems or discussing them in class but I loved seeing how
modern day artists are influenced by classic writers. Group 23 also used songs
by Rise Against to make comparisons to in their presentation. I do think
that the songs that group 21 found better reflected the themes and the meanings
behind the original poems. I really liked that these groups incorporated part
of pop culture into their presentations and how many modern things are
influenced by works of the past. This is something that is very common for
artists today, and it was very interesting to see where some of those
influences may have potentially come from.
The group that I thought did the best job with their
presentation today was group number 21. Along with being the most
creative, it was also very original. They took the idea of the reality
show, ÒAmericaÕs Got Talent,Ó and used that to display their thoughts and
critiques on the poems the World War Two poets had written. Matching the
poems with a song that, ÒKind-of sort-of,Ó resembled the poems themselves was a
good idea, and is also what made the whole presentation what it was. They
used songs that are very popular in todayÕs culture, that, in fact, I was
singing along with. The representing song connected me to the poem and
made me realize what it was trying to say. Another thing the song choice
made me realize is the connection between World War Two and the war in Iraq
today. The times are different but the art people but forth still talk
about death and honor. This presentation was very insightful to me and
this group did a great job.
I really enjoyed all of the presentations from this past
Tuesday but my favorite would have to be the first group to go, Group 21.
This group presented their information in a skit type form that proved to be
most entertaining and informative. They showcased "Soldier's Got
Talent" and presented some of the poems we have read in class through the
eyes of soldiers. It was nice to see the entire group working together to
form a cohesive project. At this point in the course we have seen many
groups present their projects in very analytical "lecture-like" ways
and it was nice to see a group branch away from the norm and present the
information in a manner that actually shed new light onto the poems.
These presentations have served as a chance for students to be creative with
their personal insight and Group 21 did exactly that. Great job, Group
21!
Group 21 was by far one of my favorite groups this quarter.
I was really excited for these rounds of presentations because they were really
able to utilize music. This group was extremely creative in how they made their
presentation like the show ÒAmerican Idol.Ó This ÒSoldiers Got TalentÓ theme
was very upbeat version of the material that we had been reading. The
group would play the song as it was pared with a slideshow with pictures that
followed along perfectly with the war hero actions that were portrayed in the
literature. It made the material very entertaining and worth listening to
instead of the dramatic war time terror. Not only did they use the songs but
they compared and contrasted the different songs to one another like ÒIf I die
youngÓ and ÒThe Soldier as well as ÒI will remember youÓ and ÒWhen I am killed.Ó
Music is a universal language no matter what type of music it is people can
appreciate the story behind the music. It was really worthwhile that the group
shows all different kinds of music from country, pop, to metal like the last
part Metallica. This way it was much easier for all of the class to become
engaged with their presentation. I truly think that this idea for ÒSoldiers Got
TalentÓ was the best way to portray this literature of war. It gave life to the
literature and the music that they chose to display along with making it
extremely entertaining. Overall, great job group 21.
I really liked Group 21Õs idea of having a singing talent
show for the present. The name ÒSoldierÕs Got Talent was clever and great
for the WW1 poets. They played the poems as songs, and gave an excellent
interpretation for every song. The played the World War 1 poems by Rubert
Brooke, Robert Graves and Wilfred Owen. The presentation certainly kept
my attention and it was amusing how the judges had different opinions of each
poem. They showed how each poem demonstrated the devastation of the war,
and the poetsÕ differing perspectives on the war. World War 1 seemed like
a tragic event, especially for the ones that was living at the time and ones
who were told of it by their parents or grandparents. Although we werenÕt
alive at the time, I feel like the war was not the right move, and the negative
effects it brought to the people of our country was not worth it. The
poets fortunately were able to demonstrate their strong beliefs of the war, and
were able to grasp the attention of readers, such as me. I hope every one
who reads the poems are able to visualize and sense the tragic events that
happened to our country. The judgesÕ interpretations of each of the
poems, demonstrated what is being explained and helped me better understand the
poemsÕ objectives. They did a great job and I definitely prefer listening
to the poems being sung, rather than reading from the book. It was easier
and more helpful.
Group 21 SoldierÕs Got Talent: It was different but I
thought the group could have done a better job at presenting. They seemed to be
just reading off of their papers and I could hardly hear them. I thought
that the idea of how they approached the topic was unique and different but I
didnÕt take anything away from it. I like the songs that the group picked for
each of their soldiers, with that said I could not hear exactly why they pick
those songs for those soldiers. Group 21 great idea but focus more on content
that just creativity. I felt like I did not understand what your project was
trying to convey to the class.
The project that I thought was the most interesting was
Group 21, or the Soldier's Got Talent group. I really liked the songs
they chose; not only did the words match up to the poems they used but they
also were the right genre. They were slower, wistful songs that I thought
fit the theme of the presentation really well. The group also did a great
job lining up the poems to the songs and interpreting them. The ideas
between the songs and the poems were really well correlated, and they did just
the right amount of interpretation and song length so that the presentation
stayed interesting and the listeners could really focus on the comparison the
group was making. All of the groups that presented on Tuesday did more or
less the same type of presentation, but this one really stuck out. I
thought it was ingenious of the group to incorporate American pop culture in
the way of America's Got Talent, because its something that we can relate to in
addition to their songs.
I thought that this was a very clever presentation. They
clearly took a lot of time to not only read and analyze the poem but to also
find comparable songs. The set up was very innovative but I did think like the
beginning analysis was a bit lengthy and read really fast. Some of the message
was lost. I thought that the analysis was very good and well thought out. It
was complete and deep. I was one of the better analysis that a group has done
this quarter. Most groups just take a poem and compare it to something like
Group 22 did. Again, I thought that a lot of their analysis was lost though. I
liked how in the last poem the lines that were similar were highlighted. Good
use of Powerpoint! The presentation was short and easy to listen to and was
well adapted to their audience. They are one of the only groups to think about
the audience and not just the grade. I did think their presentation was a
little short and they could have picked more songs even if the correlation was
not as strong. The songs they did choose though had a very strong correlation
to the poem which I thought definitely added to the effectiveness of their
presentation. I wish though that they had given a little more background on the
authors. I thought it was unfortunate that they did not discuss this.
Group 21's presentation i feel resonated with the class
very well. They performed a mock America's Got Talent by staging a
"Solder's Got Talent". During this presentation they proceeded to
have various World War poets singing modern songs for a panel of judges. The
judges would then comment on the songs sang by the poets and would relate what
they sang to poems they have written. This was a very effective measure taken
to include the class and to help us all realize the relevancy of when the poet
had written. One song that specifically jumped out to me was a Metallica song
which the group compared to the poem 'Mental Cases". This comparison help
me to see the universality of the poem and was very enlightening. Even many
years after it was written, the poetry was still influencing our modern culture
in a very strong way. I liked this group presentation because of their ability
to take the past and merge it with the future. There use of current song and
entertainment competition really captures the audiences attention and pushes
the subject matter forward for the audience to see. The struggle of those that
experience was is often over looked by today's society. It was very refreshing,
especially after memorial day, to remember the struggle of our current U.S
solders and the difficulties that they face.
The group's presentation that I found the most interesting
was the first group that presented, group #21 who did the soldier's got talent
presentation. I thought it was original (even though the whole reality show
thing has been way overdone) and it allowed the group to present how they
thought each person would speak. It allows them to step into that role of the
speaker and gain deeper insight to them. I also liked group #22 who did a few
things, one being a poem in Mary Oliver's style. I think that takes commitment
and creativity, not only to pen an original piece of work, but to also
constrain that originality into the style of another. They also had some more
interesting responses, but the poem stood out to me.
Group 22
Overall all the presentations were very good, but the one
that spoke to me the most was the one presented by group number 22. I loved the
way the presentation began with a poem written by one of the group members. I
thought it added a very personal element to the presentation that everybody
could connect with. The poem was very reminiscent of poems written by Mary
Oliver. The poem held a depth to it that could be explored and discovered after
thought and reflection, just like that of Mary Oliver. I really enjoyed the way
an animal was described because I am very interested with working with animals
as a career. I also thought how it was very clever how the song ÒHere comes the
SunÓ was related to Mary Oliver and the Sumer day poem. I could see the similarities
behind the meaning of each and how they compared and contrasted. It was very
cool how they showed a clip from Planet Earth. It showed a new view on nature,
the world seen from the eyes of the ant. To conclude their presentation one of
the members got very personal and gave a couple personal accounts of how a
couple passages related to his life. It was awesome to hear his perspectives on
how school had entrapped him in a way where he forgot about the wonders of
nature. I can definitely relate to that.
I liked group 22's response the best. The intro with the
poem of the horse was very fitting after spending class last week with nature.
The planet earth clip was extremely applicable to Mary Oliver's poem. It is not
very often I stop to look closely at nature. This clip reminds us of Mary
Oliver's message of stopping to enjoy the details of this world we live in. The
song here comes the sun also conveys this message of slowing down and
appreciating nature. The lyrics of the song are very simple which shows us to
slow down and appreciate the simple things in life.
Group 22 did an excellent job at giving personal
interpretations on the poems by Mary Oliver. I personally enjoyed reading
the works of Mary Oliver because I have a great love and appreciation for
nature. The first one they did was on the poem about the horse.
They even came up with their own poem and I thought it was cool how one of the
members actually rides one of the horses on campus. She certainly felt
she had a great understanding and appreciation for horses, and so her
interpretation was genuine and thoughtful. The next poem was done on the
sun, and one of the members played a song by the Beetles. I can see the
mutual relationship with the song and the poem, and was a great way to sense
the warmth and security of the sun. The third poem they interpreted was ÒThe
Summer Day,Ó was personally one of my favorites. They related to Virginia
WolfeÕs book, the lamb and the tyger from Song of Innocence and a video on
planet Earth. They helped me see how precious life is, and that we donÕt
see the little things that happen everyday. It was shocking to hear that
one of the members got into a bike accident the other day and had a concussion.
He was lucky to be allright, and made me think what if this was my last day to
live. If it was, I would definitely want to live to the fullest and have
no regrets.
I enjoyed group 22's presentation because of their outgoing
personal interpretations of the texts. It showed that they each invested a lot
of time and effort to truly reflect on the poems by Mary Oliver, instead of
just coasting along on the group effort. DanielleÕs horse poem was obviously
something that she had put a lot of work into and strongly identified with. The
ant video and beatles song were nice to see because I wouldnÕt have really
connected either one with Mary OliverÕs work, and it was interesting to see the
connections that the group made between the different media pieces. Their
emphasis on the continuity of life and the importance of paying attention to
the little things is a lesson that we could all learn in todayÕs bustling
society. What really got to me was the final piece of their presentation, when
they related their project directly to our lives as students by asking us what
we were going to do with our finals week. ItÕs easy to get obsessed with
grades—hearing other students stepping in and telling us to take life one
day at a time and live it to the fullest was a nice change from the typical
complaining that we all hear at the end of the quarter. All things being said,
I thought that they could have made their individual presentations more
connected, so there was a stronger overarching theme that linked their segments
to each otherÕs parts of the presentation. Regardless, I enjoyed the attention
and effort that they employed to not only relate OliverÕs poems to their own
lives, but also show us how it affected our own.
This second to last day of presentations was filled with
many good, but similar presentations. For me, group 22Õs stood out the most out
of the four that were presented. It was easy for one to notice that this group
had spent time preparing their project. The way that they took Mary OliverÕs
writing style and incorporated it into a poem of their own was very creative
and well done. Then they compared Mary OliverÕs poems ÒThe SunÓ and ÒSunny
DayÓ to The Beatles famous song, ÒHere Comes the SunÓ. The meaning behind
the Beatles notorious song has many parallels with OliverÕs works. The
feelings that both portray are a feeling that everything will work out and one
should not worry. They are all very beautiful and uplifting writings. Along
with group 22, group 21 had a pretty creative aspect to their presentation.
They portrayed their topic through a simulation of AmericaÕs Got Talent show.
This was a clever way of showing the underlying meanings of the poems written
by the various war poets.
Out of the four groups that presented on Tuesday the one
that stood out to me the most was group 22. Starting with the horse poem that
was written by one of the members. This was a nice touch especially since she
was speaking of her own horse, being someone who rides now and then I was able
to understand the points she was speaking of. Next they went on to discuss
a Beatles song, Here Comes the Sun, this was also relevant to me because I just
took a Beatles class last Fall quarter. I related to the song because I wrote a
paper on the Album it came out on. They did a great job relating this to the
readings from class.
Group 22 had the best and most meaningful presentation of
all the groups today. They did a great job analyzing Mary Oliver and her
work and comparing it to their lives and other songs. The girl that wrote
a poem called, ÒThe HorseÓ did a great job. It was very fitting to the
topic and the course. It was something the entire class could relate to
after our experiences with the class period outside. While we were
outside, the professors were mentioning how fitting it would be if Mary Oliver
had written a poem about horses given our current situation surrounded by the
sights and sounds of horses running in the fields. The next student
compared the poem, The Sun, to a Beetles song, Here Comes the Sun, which tied
together very nicely. The third student took OliverÕs poem, The Summer
Day, and compared its themes and messages to those from other authors we
studied (including Blake, Woolf, and ThoreauÕs ÒLearn by doingÓ philosophy).
The final student did a very nice conclusion wrapping up the previous poems
with the way he gave his personal experiences and how they tied into the poems
and their themes. I especially liked how even though all the members
analyzed Mary Oliver and her works, every member of the group had a different
way of doing so (writing their own poem, comparing it to a song, comparing it
to previous authors, and relating it to their personal life experiences).
Through the groups that presented this Tuesday, I felt the
most connection and relevance to Group 22's presentation on their personal
interpretations and reactions to Mary Oliver's poems and themes. The group
began by relating that their interpretations of Oliver's poetry was largely
impacted by the nature hike and poetry reading our class did last week. One of
the girls was able to ride her horse to class and listen to poetry next to him,
and her experience lead her to create a poem about her horse adapting Mary
Oliver's style. Her poem was very in-depth and reflected Oliver's style very
well with it's short, abrupt phrases and loaded words. Moving from someone with
a lot of daily experience in nature riding horses to another group member who
hasn't really been around horses before was a refreshing change of perspective
and this contrast brought to light a sense of innocence and experience within nature.
One of the guys shared his experience petting and posing for a picture with one
of the ponies in the field and how cool of an experience that had been for him.
Besides the extensive amount of breadth and depth this presentation covered in
its short ten minutes, the contrasting perspectives both coming together to
appreciate and find wonder and beauty in nature wound up pulling at my
heartstrings. I have ridden and trained horses since I was 14, but recently I
have strayed away from it to get through school. Working both a full time job
and studying for full time classes, it has become impossible for me to keep up
on my riding and little by little I have fallen out of it completely,
reassuring myself that sometime soon I will have time to get back into it.
Nevertheless, I long to quit my job and drop out of school to ride horses, get
sunburns and have sore muscles and scraped knees all the time. Therefore, I can
definitively say that this, albeit simple, presentation had a major effect on
me personally, and it's message has me squirming in my chair to go run outside
and play.
The project I liked the best was that of group 22. They
chose to tackle Mary OliverÕs poems in many different and interesting ways
including song, video, and poems that were interesting and fun. The poems
Òthe sunÓ and Òthe summer dayÒ by Mary Oliver were good choices and I enjoyed
how they tied in the Beatles song – the sun. I also thought it was
neat how we got to watch a Planet Earth segment and pay attention and study the
ant just as closely as Mary Oliver did with the grasshopper. The closing
points were nice and hit home as well. Taking some of the wisdom out of
the poem Òthe sunÓ and the story about the senior project and how we need to
get outside more and experience nature. I thought that was true from my own
experience because after our class field trip outdoors last week I wanted to
spend more time outdoors and did so over the long weekend. The bike
accident story was also moving and showed that even though we are young, life
can be cut off at any moment and you should live it to the fullest while you
can in you Òone wild and precious life.Ó
The groupÕs presentation that most appealed to me was group
number 22. They captured my attention with the poem written by one of the group
members about the love and beauty she sees in her horse. Her poem was well
written and very eloquent. She used short lines and specific details just the
way Mary Oliver does in her poems. Her appreciation of nature and the small
details about her horse really moved me and spoke to me. The group then went on
to compare the Beatles' song, ÒHere Comes the SunÓ to the poems ÒThe SunÓ and ÒThe
Summer DayÓ by Oliver. Both poems and the song are reminders that even in the
darkest times, things can get better. The Planet Earth clip was nice because I
really did pay attention to all the tiny little details of the ant that I
otherwise probably would have looked over. I liked how they ended their
presentation with the question of how are we all going to live our lives.
Recently IÕve found my true self and this question made me think about how I
truly want to live my life and enjoy all the tiny little beautiful aspects of
the world around me.
I enjoyed group 22's personal interpretations of Mary
Oliver. By adding their own personal spins on the nature poetry, the
poems seemed more relatable and enjoyable. I particularly enjoyed the
poem about the horse. I have a horse, so I found that one the most
relatable. They proposed that the poems were the most relatable work yet,
and I agree.
I especially enjoyed the presentation of group 22 who did
the mary oliver's the sun. I enjoyed the fact that they made the entire
presentation very personal and each member of the group took the presentation
to heart. I especially enjoyed the photos of the one of the presenters and her
horse because I felt that she put a lot of focus into it. I felt the use of the
song was the weakest part of the presentation but that may stem from the fact
that I hate that song so I had a hard focusing on the point of the song. The
strongest part of the presentation was how they related the poem to many other
works that we have covered previously in class. The relation back to the tyger
and the lamb was a great point to be made and I actually noticed it when I
first read the sun. The presenters use of media was very well done. The
powerpoint slides helped the flow of the presentation, but overall the best
part was the use of the Planet Earth clip. The show itself is fantastically
done and it directly related to the material being presented. I liked the focus
on the single ant in the video because it was just like how Oliver focuses on a
single insect in her poem. The presentation as a whole was very detailed and
well delivered.
I enjoyed group 22Õs presentation mostly because they
seemed creative and different compared to the other presentations. The
opening poem was creative and the style reflected that of Mary Oliver. I
thought it was cool to hear how the horse affected the girlÕs life. It seemed
applicable especially because the previous class period was in the hills and
horses were galloping around the fields. I also enjoyed the groupÕs
comparison between The BeatleÕs song, Here Comes the Sun, and the poem called
The Sun. Lastly, I liked hearing how the presenters reflected on a
specific poem that they read. I thought it was cool that the group
discussed how certain poems have influenced the group to look back on life and
realize they should enjoy the life they are given.
Of all the presentations from this round, group 22Õs
presentation was most inspiring. They offered creative personal responses
to Mary OliverÕs poems ÒThe SunÓ and ÒThe Summer DayÓ. The first member
shared an original poem about being in nature and the relationship she has with
her horse. The day we had class in the field I did not realize that she
was a student. I thought she was supervising us in the field instead and
taking care of the horses. Now that I know the truth, I think it is very
cool that she was able to ride to class on her horse the day we focused on
experiencing nature first hand. Her poem was written in the style of Mary
Oliver, with short lines revolving around a nature theme. Another member
compared The BeetlesÕ ÒHere Come the SunÓ with OliverÕs ÒThe SunÓ. It was
interesting to hear another work about the sun with essentially the same
message. He pointed out that both acknowledge times of darkness will be
made better by the rising sun. It was hard for me to make these
connections for myself though during their presentation because I cannot read
one thing, listen to another, and comprehend both. The part of the
presentation that had the greatest impact on me was the end. I
appreciated the final memberÕs contribution. He made direct ties to recent
events in his life and OliverÕs ÒThe Summer DayÓ. The poem makes one
realize how valuable life is. The presenter shared the personal story of
how he was recently hit by a car while riding his bike. He was lucky and
only suffered a concussion. The accident made him realize how precious
his life is. He ended the project by posing OliverÕs question, ÒWhat is
it you plan to do/with your one wild precious life?Ó
The best group that presented today was the second group,
group 22. This was the group that titled themselves ÒAn Eclectic Mary
Oliver OutlookÓ. I really enjoyed this groupÕs presentation because they
all definitely took it very seriously and added a lot of creativity to it.
The first person wrote a poem called the horse, which was very good, and
it really made me think about how amazing of an experience it was to get to go
up on the hill and be apart of the nature of Cal Poly even if it was only for
two hours. I have never gotten to see horses run freely and to listen to
the communicating was also very enjoyable! Then this group used a popular
band (The Beatles) to draw the students in and discuss their thoughts on how
these songs related to Mary OliverÕs poems. They played ÒHere comes the
sunÓ and discussed how shares a lot in common with The Sun and The Summer Day.
Specifically how long, cold and lonely wintersÉ.and every evening and
every morning the sun slides behind the hills and yet everything is all right
in the end. My favorite part about this group though was probably when
they showed the clip from Planet Earth. I thought that was a really neat
idea and allowed the students to sit and ponder a small insect for a period of
time and realize how truly spectacular and wonderful nature truly is. I
really took away from this presentation that humans need to spend more time in
nature and appreciate its true beauty.
After watching all of the presentations on Tuesday, I felt
that Group 22 had the best presentation about Mary OliverÕs work. I
enjoyed how group 22 used three different methods to interpret three of
OliverÕs poems. They started off their presentation with a poem entitled ÒThe
HorseÓ. They created this poem based on OliverÕs style of short lines and
revolving around the theme of nature. The poem really captured the passion of
how the author felt about her house. She was able to convey the theme of
appreciating nature and the essence of having a relationship with nature. The
next thing the group did was play the song Here Comes The Sun by The Beetles,
which they used to compare to OliverÕs ÒThe SunÓ. The group pointed out how the
song parallels with the poem, ÒThe SunÓ because both remind listeners that even
in the darkest times, things do get better rather than worse. Next they
compared ÒThe Summer DayÓ back to William BlakeÕs ÒThe lambÓ and ÒThe tigerÓ. I
thought this made their presentation well rounded because they were including
previous authorÕs works. They also compared ÒThe Summer DayÓ to Virginia
WoolfÕs Ms. Ramsey, because of her good outlook on life and nature. They included
a clip of an ant from Planet Earth. I thought this was an interesting visual
choice, because it made me realize that a lot of people take nature for
granted. Lastly they ended the presentation with a real-life experience which
makes OliverÕs overall message of being in tuned with nature apparent.
Group 22Õs presentation captured my interest and attention
the most. The focus was on the poems of Mary Oliver, whose poetry is easy
to relate to for nature lovers and conservationists. I liked the original
poem about horse-riding. I have never ridden a horse, but I imagine it
does make one feel more in tune with nature. Certainly the poem seemed to
convey a feeling of freedom from human civilization. I enjoyed the
comparison of Mary OliverÕs ÒThe SunÓ to the BeatlesÕ ÒHere Comes the SunÓ.
In OliverÕs poem, the sun is seen as a wonderful and relaxing sight. In
the Beatles song, the arrival of the sun means the return of happiness and good
times after a winter that is described as lonely. Personally, I have
never associated the winter with loneliness, nor do I automatically associate
the summer with good times, but that is certainly the case in American culture
(if not other cultures as well). In both the poem and the song, the sun
is adored with a Òwild loveÓ, just as Mary Oliver said. William BlakeÕs ÒThe
LambÓ and ÒThe TygerÓ poems were compared to OliverÕs poem ÒThe Summer DayÓ.
I thought that this was an appropriate comparison. ÒThe LambÓ asks who
made the lamb and answers this question, while ÒThe TygerÓ asks who has the
capability and will to create the fearsome tiger, but does not answer this
question. All three poems have questions comprising a large section of
the poem, and most of these questions ask ÒWho is responsible for creation?Ó.
ÒThe Summer DayÓ is specifically similar to ÒThe TygerÓ in that the questions
are left unanswered, and it is specifically similar to ÒThe LambÓ in that the
tone of both poems is soothing and calming.
The group that was the most interesting to me and brought
the most refreshing analysis to the table was the second group that presented
on Tuesday, group 22. They did their presentation on poems by Mary Oliver and
had various styles of analysis which kept my interest throughout their
presentation. They wrote their own poem, compared one of OliverÕs poems to a
well known musical artist, The Beatles, and also showed a Planet Earth clip
which I found very entertaining. All three of these were efficient ways of
analyzing OliverÕs works, and contributed to the overarching theme of
appreciating nature for the small yet complex details that exist all around us
yet often go unnoticed. The Planet Earth clip especially brought that theme to
the audienceÕs attention, and made me realize that I often overlook the basic
simplicities of nature, and donÕt take enough time to observe the beauty of GodÕs
creation in nature. This fit in perfectly with Mary OliverÕs poems, which
commonly described nature at face value. Also, playing the Beatles song was
effective in my opinion because a very large majority of the audience was most
likely familiar with it, and would never think to analyze it in the way they
did, and compare the song to an author from our English class. Overall well put
together and executed presentation.
Of all the groups we saw during the presentations on May 31st
I would have to say that group 22 had the best presentation of the day. I liked
how they all had different parts and ideas, and they were still elaborating
quite well on the concepts involved. They had the poem about the horse, The
Beatles comparisons to ÒThe SunÓ, and ÒSummer DayÓ in relation to Planet Earth
footage. The poem about the horse was really well done, I thoroughly enjoyed
the tone and how the poem progressed as a whole. It created a good sense of
nature while at the same time not being too straight forward and keeping some
things to the listenerÕs interpretation. Probably my favorite part was The
Beatles, comparison to ÒThe Sun.Ó It was an interesting decision and one that
in the end paid off as there were many parallels and I think that it was very
enjoyable and maintained the audienceÕs attention. Finally, the Planet Earth
footage was used in relation to the poem ÒSummer Day.Ó Once again, it was
something I wasnÕt sure would really work together, but in the end it worked
really well and the conclusions drawn were very strong. The group did a great
job making an original and creative presentation that grabbed the audienceÕs
attention and was able to draw some interesting conclusions through it. Good
job 22.
The presentation that struck me the most was the group that
compared various songs about the sun to Mary Oliver's The Sun poem and
demonstrated how it related to them. I personally enjoy the songs like Here
Comes the Sun by the Beatles because it seems so innocent and about a simple
concept but the sun is so important so us and our well being. Finally, the part
of the presentation that I could most personally relate to was the last
segment. When the kid at the end spoke of his bike crash with a car and asked
us to think about the value of our life on this planet. I recently crashed into
a car as well but while skate boarding and have had a similar reflection period
and a desire to change things in my life.
Group 23
Group 23 did an excellent job of relating music of our
generation to war poems of World War I. They showed how both have innocence and
experience as welll as both relate to war. The group compared songs by Rise
Against such as "Hero of War" and "Survivor Guilt" to poems
such as "The Soldier" by Rupert Brooke and "They" by
Siegfried Sassoon. Comparing the two really brought up the point of dying for
your country being a just way to die. They asked questions like "Is dying
for your country serve as a purpose to die?" Its seems that there are also
different views on how to treat the answers to these questions. Some agree and
others do not. It comes down to the soldiers feelings and their experience in
times of war. I liked group 23's project because of the slideshow they had of
our current soldiers and the handout the gave. They did an excellent job of
relating our current music to the poems of the past.
Group 23 had an interesting presentation style. The way
they compared poems we read in class to modern songs, which dealt with the same
motif, was impressive. On top of this they were able to cover the main genres
of war poetry, not just one aspect such as experience. The hand out they passed
around was useful because I was able to read the lyrics before the song came
on, therefore letting me enjoy the comparison they were trying to make. Though
two songs were by the same artist, Rise Against, each song fit the poem it was
being to compared to very well. I would have preferred if they worked through
their power point as it seemed a little sloppy. Some comparisons to Blake were
mentioned but not elaborated on, which was a shame since they had the innocence
and experience of war poetry. This presentation was most important to me
because I have a cousin in military action, and I have watched a slight change
from before he joined to after he saw combat, and the comparison this group
brought up of innocence and experience is very relatable.
Group 23 did a good job finding songs that related to poems
about the war. The way they analyzed and found modern examples of the poets
we're looking at was very similar to how my group presented William Blake. I
found it interesting how the same artist has written two songs with different
feelings towards war. The song "Hero of War," talks about patriotism
and the positive side of enlisting. Maybe the true feelings behind this song
are expressing how soldiers are fooled into believing that going to war would
be a good thing for them. The second song they played, "Survivor
Guilt," showed a darker side of war. The line "freedom isn't
free" is a common saying that seems to be paradoxical. It is true though
that we have fought for our freedom and many men have lost their lives so that
we could have the liberties we have today. This is the price we've paid.
The presentation that I enjoyed the most was that of Group
23. They chose to take poems we had read in class and compare them to
songs (or lyrical poems) of today's modern rock world. They chose to read
us The Soldier from Rupert Brooke, which they determined meant being a hero of
war makes you a national celebrity and absolves you of all your sins and makes
you immortal, or at least that's what people tend to believe. They chose
to set this side by side with Hero of War by Rise Against (which was already a
song that I personally enjoy) which begins with the mentality that going to war
will bring you respect and fame. However, as the song progresses it opens
the audiences eyes to the truths of war and that it is not all honesty and
bravery, but that sometimes unethical things may happen, creating a feeling of
guilt in soldiers that many people are probably unaware of. Their
presentation was simply an eye-opener for me as to some of the hardships that
veterans must face despite the respect they receive when they come back to the
states, and I also enjoyed their music selection just on a personal note.
Throughout todays presentations, I thought that group 23
did the best job. They really spoke to the audience and me by using
information that relates to us today. They used music that people listen
to in this day to represent the message they were trying to get across about
the symbolism of war and love. The music they played by Rise Against
described how war effects people and their mind set about life. The song
"Hero of War" described how if you are going to die, it is perfectly
normal and appropriate to die for your country and be proud of it. The
group described after the song that the lyrics of the song described how a
soldier did not mind going into the war because he knew that it was for his
country and the outcome will be him being a hero to all no matter what happens.
At the end of the song, the soldier and everyone accepts war and death
within the war. The next song the group presented to the class was called
"Survivor Guilt" in which the lyrics portrayed how war overpowers the
innocence and it is acceptable. The song describes how fighting and
giving it your all serves as only something you can personally accept
understand what the real meaning is. In the song, there is a part where
an innocent person speaks up to one fighting and the one fighting overrules
because war overpowers all that there is. This group allowed me to see
the meaning of war within society and the eyes of the people actually
participating in war and fighting. They showed how war in the toughest
answer and the one answer that can dominate over everything.
My favorite group that presented was group 23 who compared
"The soldier" by Brooke to Hero of War by Rise Against and another
song and poem. I thought it was really genuine to take today's music and
compare it to something so descriptive as "The Soldier." My favorite
lines that really illustrated the two to me and that the group spoke about was
in the "Hero of War" it says, "I'll carry this flag/ to the
grave if I must/ Because its flag that I love/ And a flag that I trust."
This really showed how even today people feel the same about war and probably
very similar to how Brooke did, even though they hadn't been in war first had.
Using an artist like Rise Against was very wise because they're seen as
anarchist and Brooke was persecuted for his poetry also. I also really enjoyed
how they passed out lyrics to the songs they compared so that the class could
follow along and find comparisons on their own also. Great Job I was impressed!
I thought all the groups that presented this Tuesday did an
excellent job, but I especially enjoyed group 22Õs presentation. They explored
Mary OliverÕs poems through an array of media. One group member decided to
write her own poem with OliverÕs style and themes. Oliver writes about her
experience in nature, so the group member reflected on her own experience in
nature specifically with her relationship with her horse. She used the same
short phrases and descriptive words like Oliver. I thought her poem was
creative and beautifully written. I thought she executed Mary OliverÕs style
perfectly and I appreciated her attention to her horse. The next group member
compared ÒHere Comes the SunÓ by the Beatles to Mary OliverÕs poem ÒThe SunÓ. I
enjoyed this part of the presentation because that is one of my favorite
BeatlesÕ songs. The overall comparison seemed just a little too obvious, but I
appreciated the connection all the same. Lastly, the group showed a clip from Planet
Earth that showed an ant in its environment.
This clip captured the incredible detail of the antÕs anatomy and movement. I
thought that this was a perfect clip to show because Mary Oliver describes
nature with equal detail. This provided a visual to OliverÕs work. Even though
we experience nature visually during our nature class, I felt we couldnÕt
connect fully to OliverÕs work because we could not study species or nature in
the great detail like Oliver. So, this clip was a much needed visual. Overall,
I loved the variety of the presentation, and each group member did a solid job.
Group 23 did an excellent job with their presentation on
Tuesday! I really liked that they got the class somewhat involved by giving us
a handout with the words to the songs on it. I had never really paid much
attention to the lyrics of those songs before and I seriously got goose bumps
while reading them while they were presenting. I liked that they picked on poem
that demonstrated a sense of innocence and one poem that demonstrated a sense
of experience. When they compared ÒHero of WarÓ by Rise Against to the poem ÒThe
SoldierÓ by Rupert Brooke I got the goose bumps! The chorus of the song ÒÉ
because itÕs a flag that I love and a flag that I trustÓ shows me that the
writer was willing to do anything for his country and that he knows he has the
support of his country. ÒSurvivor GuiltÓ was compared to the poem ÒTheyÓ by
Siegfried Sassoon. These two both showed the experience that men and women go
through while at war. They ask questions like ÒWhat is the purpose of dyingÓ
etc. Those are big questions to be asking. By using that poem and that song is
almost as if those questions got answered. Everyone seemed involved in the
project while presenting. All the members knew what was going on and
incorporated their own bits and pieces to the project which made it
entertaining. I thought group 23 went above and beyond with this presentation!
I guess any group that can give me goose bumps must have been pretty dang
good!!! So great job to you guys!
Group 23 had the most meaningful presentation to me. Their
outlook on World War I poets was quite unique and allowed me to see some
underlying values that accompany war. Being that many friends of mine actively
serving in the military and some even fighting overseas, this presentation
really touched me with the values that were presented. It was amazing how well
the poems correlated with the songs written by Rise Against. In the first song,
Hero of War, group 23 tied in how the soldier started off being innocent and
eventually was overtaken with experience. I thought it was awesome that they
brought forth the universal themes of Blake and related them to these songs. I
agreed with the ideas that a soldier enlists to fight for their country and
benefit from the potential pride they will receive upon returning. I enjoyed
how the group presented both sides of going to war such as being a hero and the
dark side of guilt. They seemed to cover the entire spectrum and look at war
from all perspectives. Their power point was organized and full of
intense imagery of all the aspects of war such as gun battles, death, pride,
explosions and the living quarters of the soldiers. Overall, I really enjoyed
this presentation because it allowed me to understand the reasons behind war
and the true motives on why a soldier risks his life to fight for his country.
Thanks group 23 for shedding a new light on the dark topic of war.
My favorite presentation was from Group 23. They took
two poems from the WWI British Poets book and compared them to Rise Against
songs. They explained how the lyrics showed the change from innocence to
experience. First off, I liked how the group passed out a handout for the
class so we could read the lyrics. The first song, which compared to ÒThe
SoldierÓ by Brooke, really hit home. This song was extremely powerful and
moving. The singer put a lot of emotion into these lyrics which made the
audience feel for those off in the war. I was a little disappointed that
we couldnÕt finish the first song because I liked it so much! The second
song, called ÒSurvivor GuiltÓ compared to the poem ÒTheyÓ by Sassoon.
This song was a bit more angry and forceful. However, after we read
the stanzas of the poem, the audience understood the frustration and almost
desperation in the lyrics. This group excelled at finding songs that
related to the poems. I was surprised at how well they fit with each
other! Someone really knows their music! Although this presentation
wasnÕt comical, the seriousness of their presentation made it powerful. I
definitely thought that it stood out as the best presentation because of the
dramatic feeling the audience felt after we heard the Rise Against songs.
Also, the slideshow was amazing as well. It gave the audience the
option of following along with the lyrics or looking at pictures. Great
job Group 23!
I considered all of the presentations very creative and
thought provoking, but I thought one stood out from them all. The group
that stood out to me was group number 23, how they compared World War I poems
and poets to a present day punk rock group that expressed the same views of
war. Adequately displaying how history does in fact repeat itself, this
group successfully compared two poems to two Rise Against songs. The first
poem, The Soldier by Rupert Brook, described the glory of death if it was for
your own country. This illuminates the immense amount of patriotism that
was apparent during the World War I era, love for ones country and pride was
something that could be found in most of society. This poem was compared
to Hero of War by Rise Against. The first stanza depicts innocence by
presenting a conversation with a father and son. This conversation
repeats the father saying, ÒSon, Have you seen the world? Well, what would you
say if I said that you could?Ó at the beginning and end of the song. The
song continues into the evils and tortures of war, thus ending in experience.
The second poem, They by Siegried Sassoon, illuminated the darker side of
war and the difficulty for the soldiers to return to civilian life when brought
out of the war. This was compared to Survivor Guilt by Rise Against.
This song shows the life soldiers have when they return from war, usually
brushed aside and not even praised by society for putting their life on the
line for freedom. This is apparent in the line, ÒCarry on, donÕt mind me/
All I gave was everything/ And yet you ask me for more.Ó This shows the
views of the countercultures of each generation, the ones against the wars.
I was moved most by group 23 and their message to get out
and enjoy nature for a second or two. It is extremely easy to get lost and
caught up in things when your life is revolving around finals week. Rather than
locking yourself up in Kennedy Library, why not walk up to the arboretum to
study. The song by the Beatles, Here Comes The Sun was a great way to
incorporate Mary Oliver, and the idea that the sun is what powers us all and
nature is the true center of life, not finals! Once you surround yourself with nature
and remember how everything is insignificant in the long run, things can get
less stressful in a busy day or week, and I think group 23 did a great job for
relaying this message to the class through their presentation.
I really liked group 23's project on WW1 poets. I like how
they took to WW1 poems and then compared them to two modern day songs and
showed how different soldiers points of view. They started off by reading the
Rupert Brooke poem and playing the song Hero of War by Rise Against. I liked
how they tied these 2 pieces to Blake's innocence. The 2 pieces expresses
innocence before going to war and that death was good and glorified and if you
were to die for your country you would be forever immortalized. The second 2
pieces, a WW1 poem and Survivor Guilt by Rise Against showed Blake's
experience. The pieces showed soldiers individual experiences, and it shows the
contradicting view points of the public who think the war is a "good"
and "justified" war and the soldiers who talk about their losses. I
thought it was interesting that they brought up the point that all 4 of these
pieces discuss and illustrate the two sides of the people for and against wars
and how people's view points can change. I thought their presentation and
powerpoint was well done and i liked how they can handouts with the lyrics so
we could easily follow along.
Of the groups that presented their creative projects on
Tuesday, May 31st, group 21 and group 23 were the best. Group 21
gave us a game show version of how they related modern songs they knew to the
poems. All three songs seemed to accurately reflect some of the thoughts in the
poems that they chose. I thought the choice they made to turn their
presentation into something reminiscent of AmericaÕs Got Talent or American Idol
was a good choice since it probably gave people that watch those shows an even
better way to connect to the presentation. I also really liked the art-work of
the opening slide. Someone besides those soldiers ÒGot Talent.Ó Group 21
related two poems to two songs by Rise Against, a band which I am largely
unfamiliar with. The lyrics of both songs seemed to accurately reflect the
thoughts and feelings of the poets during World War I. It also helped that they
handed out the lyrics to the songs so we could follow along as the tracks were
played. The first and third stanzas in ÒHero of WarÓ seemed like they might be
along the lines of what many people were thinking going into World War I and
sometimes even today. ÒHe said, ÔSon, Have you see the world? Well, what would
you say If I said that you could? Just carry this gun and youÕll even get paid.Õ
I said, ÒThat sounds pretty good.ÕÓ These as well as the first repetition of
the ÒA hero of warÓ stanza seemed extremely applicable. Both of these
presentations gave us a better way to connect with the poets if we couldnÕt
already through our various family members who may have fought.
The comparison on music by Rise Against to the poetry of
the World War One poets was done decently. I really enjoy music by Rise
Against and Hero of War is one of my favorite songs, so that may have played a
factor in my decision. As far as the actual presentation went, I really
liked how they passed out the lyrics to both the songs and the poems. It
helped me see the connections they were speaking about up close, and kept me
decently involved. I do think the depth of the analysis could have been
better, but it was a good path to go down. The song Hero of War is
relatively easy to understand, so I felt that the message they were leaving us
with was a little remedial and straightforward but if you had not ever heard
Rise Against before you may have enjoyed the connection and the message that
the group shared with us. As critical of this group as I may be, I do
feel that they ÒspokeÓ the best to me, and were the most memorable of the
presentations from Tuesday.
Group 24
Group 24 did a really good job with their project. The
first reader of the PowerPoint did a really good job of reading the poem in
such a way that makes more sense to the reader. The PowerPoint's pictures also
did a good job of visually representing the themes of the poem. I like how they
explained the beginning open-ended questions in Mary Oliver's poem and how that
helped the format of the poem. It was nice that they all brought forth their
own personal interpretations of the poem, instead of one really detailed
explanation like most of the groups have been doing. This made it much more
relatable and gave multiple perspectives to the work. I also appreciated how
"Life On Earth", the song they played with the slideshow, also tied
into the overall theme. In their conclusion, the group also talked about how
Mary Oliver's poem ties into other works and the style of her writings, which
helps with understanding the poem.
Who made the world? My favorite presentation was group #24Õs
analysis on Mary OliverÕs poem A SummerÕs Day. The quote that I found interesting was the groups comment
on how they found Mary OliverÕs poetry easier to read than other poems that we
read in class. The reason I found this intriguing is because I believe the
topic of nature is easier to connect to as a reader. Human concept and ideas
tend to be vague and confusing and lack concreteness where as nature is
simplicity. Nature is something we can connect to wherever we are and doesnÕt
require that you be in a certain state of mind, you can just be. Mary OliverÕs
description of a grasshopper is a prime example of this. She isnÕt trying to
unearth the meaning behind the grasshopper or its purpose in the world. She
just watches it being, taking the actions of the grasshopper at eye value,
cherishing itÕs every motion. Oliver is in her own form of prayer by honoring
natureÕs simplicity with her attention. So shouldnÕt it make sense that reading
these poems of nature should be simple, otherwise how else can one appreciate
the simplicity of nature? As human being we are always questioning everything:
Who made the world? Who made the swan, and the black bear? Who made the
grasshopper? I feel that OliverÕs poem is mocking these questions with a
question of itself, Who cares? Does it
really matter? DoesnÕt everything die at last, and too soon? WeÕre here so why
donÕt we stop wasting our time asking questions and start enjoying it.
While all groups who presented on Tuesday did an
exceptional job, I thought Group 24 really stood out. They essentially tied in
two themes that weÕve worked with, instead of one, and made it very easy to
understand at the same time. I was impressed with how they were able to
bring in the notion of Òinnocence vs. experienceÓ while dealing with the issue
of war at the same time. Contrasting the poems from World War One with
modern punk rock music provided a clear, contemporary message while still
maintaining the original message from the poems. I thought it was very
interesting to show how the voice of the singer from Rise Against changed from
excited and enthusiastic in ÒHero of WarÓ to jaded and exhausted by the end of
the song. It goes to show that innocence and experience really do play a
big role in our lives, and that without this said experience, a person can
actually look forward to going to war and being in the midst of all the death
and destruction that comes with it. The next song analyzed provided a
much more experienced viewpoint, one in which the soldier is already back from
war, and wants to know why the hell is was there in the first place.
He talks of being lied to, and coming back home to nothing, his entire life
lost. This seems like a realistic account of how a soldierÕs experience
tends to occur, and shows that the idealized, patriotic way of viewing war is
really not realistic, and likely propaganda.
I found that group 24 had the most relatable and enjoyable
project. The group focused their project around Mary OliverÕs The Summer
Day. The group took animals/insects and
related to it to the poem. What I really got out of it was the appreciation of
nature and how there are so many things in life we take for granted. Animals
and insects are part of the world and are amazing if you really think about it.
For example, the grasshopper represents the spontaneity of life and we should
appreciate the little things. The group wanted to remind the audience that we
have only one life and we should really think about what we want to get out of
it. At any moment we can lose our blessed life that is not very long to begin
with and we should live life to the fullest. The group project me reflect on
what is going on in my life right now. I feel as though I constantly feel
stressed and that I am pursuing goals that society has forced me to conform to.
Analyzing the poem has given me a nice calm feeling and that I should really
enjoy every single day.
My favorite presentation was Group 24. What first caught my
attention were their bright yellow handouts of ÒHero of WarÓ and ÒSurvivor
GuiltÓ by Rise Against. Group 24 chose to take on the World War One Poets. They
took two poems and made comparisons to music from our generation. They used the
idea of innocence and experience. It was neat to see how innocence and
experience are in todayÕs music and in war poems from back in the day. They
took two songs sung by Rise Against and compared them to ÒThe SoldierÓ by
Rupert Brooke and ÒTheyÓ by Siegfried Sassoon. They used a slideshow with
pictures of our soldiers and war times. ÒHero of WarÓ is the innocent view of
war. It says that dying for your country isnÕt a bad thing. Because you are
dying for your country, it is a just cause. This is similar to ÒThe SoldierÓ. ÒTheyÓ
and ÒSurvivor GuiltÓ both show the experience of war. They ask questions like ÒWhat
purpose does dying serve?Ó ÒHow many more will lose a life?Ó. And from ÒTheyÓ ÒThe
ways of God are so strangeÓ. You are shown the disheartening feelings of
soldiers, and how they give all they have and then are still asked to do more.
There are always two different sides of war, those for and those against. It
was interesting to see the two sides shown in this way. It is an eye opener to
see why people have different sides in every situation. It gives you a new
perspective on life.
On May 31st groups presented their interpretations to
differnt poems. I felt each group did a good jon presenting, but I
enjoyed group 24's presentation powerpoint. I feel they could have been alittle
more creative, but I enjoyed their interpretation on Summer Day by Mary Oliver.
I felt each group member presented their parts with confidence and enthusiasm.
I liked how they analyzed the poem with a collage. I thought they did a good
job analyzing Mary Oliver's poem, making it more understandable and easier to
see what Oliver was trying to express in her writing. Even though I feel
each group did a good job on their interpretations, goup 24 caught my
attention.
All of the presentations were enjoyable but I think the
project presented by Group 24 was the most meaningful and somewhat different
from the rest of the group that presented. They took ÒThe Summer DayÓ by
Mary Oliver and interpreted what they think the poem is portraying. They
analyzed the horse and grasshopper which was informative. From their
presentation, I learned that Mary Oliver is portraying that life is spontaneous
and that everything comes to an end so enjoy life. Also, they explained
how ÒThe Summer DayÓ was somewhat parallel to ÒThe LambÓ by William Blake.
I thought that was a good analysis. Lastly, the question in the end
ÒYou only have one life and what would you like to get out of it?Ó got me
thinking of what I really want in life. I believe that this group worked
well together and did a wonderful job in portraying Mary OliverÕs message.
Overall, I believe that group 24Õs presentation was the best and I enjoyed
every minute of it.
Of todayÕs group projects, I enjoyed Group #24Õs
presentation the most. I felt that this group did the best job
interpreting the poems written by Mary Oliver, and I appreciated the way that
they each contributed their own insight as to how the poems changed their way
of thinking and view on life. The poem one student wrote about her horse
was especially meaningful to me. I have always enjoyed watching and being
around horses and our field trip allowed me to be an observer in their
environment. Studying their activity filled me with happiness, much as
the student in the group was filled with such appreciation and admiration when
she was in the presence of her own horse. These feelings of awe and
respect towards life and nature are present in all of Mary OliverÕs poems and
have led me to appreciate being out in the natural environment to experience
all of its components, large or small. I also enjoyed when the students
paralleled the poem ÒThe SunÓ to the song ÒHere Comes the SunÓ by the Beatles.
This song has always been one of my favorites and the connections between the two
are quite strong. Both works utilize similar wording and the overall
theme of a promising tomorrow- even when the light may disappear for a bit it
always reappears during the next day to once again bring warmth and positivity.
The end of the presentation allowed us to utilize our Mary Oliver-esque skills
to watch one of the smallest creatures, the ant, crawl around and wash its
face, something not many people would notice if they didnÕt take the time to
stop and enjoy the world around them every now and again.
I enjoyed Group 24's presentation of Mary Oliver's poetry.
I liked the way they drew specific details and images from the poem "The
Grasshopper" and tied it into larger themes of nature's serenity and the
meaning of life. I enjoyed the Band of Horses song that they incorporated that
also carried these themes. I thought the background music went well with the
illustrations in coordination with reading the poem. One of the group members
said "like is captivating and intricate–" and I felt that this
was an appropriate summation.